Per the rules, my .log file info is below.
Don't know if we will need it for my issue, but there it is.
I'm sitting in the chat room arount 5pm CST, seems to be no activity
at this hour.

As I posted in a different thread, I'm using Daphne on a Mame Cabinet
with a 27" TV and am doing a video conversion of the Dragon's Lair
HD clips to be able to be used in Daphne.

I have Zero experience with the frame file, except for editing the
first line with the path to the video files. I've always been dependant
on frame files that are created for me by the video converters.
So if this turns out to be a frame file issue, I will post it as well so you
can see what I have.

My issue is this. Once scene so far in partiuclar (which is the only scene holding me back from getting to the dragon's lair) seems to be giving me problems at the end of the scene....
The electric knight (electric floor) where dirk starts with the sword on the right. (I believe this is the reversed screen-DLS30.VOB.M2V)
The video normally ends as dirk starts to jump through the doorway.
(using rom F2) but for some reason the rest of the scene is playing through, where he walks down the steps.

I think I have one other problem to report - but I need to do a little more testing to come up with an absolute diagnosis.
It appears that when the last scene (dragon's lair) is to play, I get a death scene, that continually repeats itself.
But I just want to concentrate on the first issue first, with the extended scene.

Every single video clip converted over and plays back perfectly, up to this screen - move timing matches frame for frame, etc. I'm very very happy with the results. Just this one screen is playing longer than it should.

If someone could help me with this problem, I'd appreciate it.

Here is my frame file incase it helps:
..\DLDVDROM\

150 dl-slates.m2v
323 dls00.vob.m2v
1366 dls01.vob.m2v
2044 dls01d1.vob.m2v
2085 dls01d2.vob.m2v
2133 dls01d3.vob.m2v
2213 dls01b.vob.m2v
2297 dls02.vob.m2v
2729 dls02d1.vob.m2v
2801 dls02d2.vob.m2v
2849 dls02d3.vob.m2v
2921 dls02d4.vob.m2v
2956 dls02b.vob.m2v
3041 dls03.vob.m2v
3349 dls03d1.vob.m2v
3421 dls03b.vob.m2v
3505 dls04.vob.m2v
3865 dls04d1.vob.m2v
3925 dls04d2.vob.m2v
3999 dls04b.vob.m2v
4080 dls05.vob.m2v
4639 dls05d1.vob.m2v
4663 dls05d2.vob.m2v
4711 dls05d3.vob.m2v
4759 dls05d4.vob.m2v
4839 dls05d5.vob.m2v
4875 dls05d6.vob.m2v
4923 dls05d7.vob.m2v
4983 dls05b.vob.m2v
5065 dls06.vob.m2v
5423 dls06d1.vob.m2v
5459 dls06d2.vob.m2v
5495 dls06d3.vob.m2v
5543 dls06b.vob.m2v
5625 dls07.vob.m2v
5947 dls07d1.vob.m2v
6039 dls07d2.vob.m2v
6091 dls07d3.vob.m2v
6199 dls07b.vob.m2v
6281 dls08.vob.m2v
6647 dls08d1.vob.m2v
6695 dls08d2.vob.m2v
6731 dls08d3.vob.m2v
6827 dls08b.vob.m2v
6909 dls09.vob.m2v
7489 dls09d1.vob.m2v
7525 dls09d2.vob.m2v
7549 dls09d3.vob.m2v
7597 dls09d4.vob.m2v
7649 dls09d5.vob.m2v
7673 dls09d6.vob.m2v
7745 dls09b.vob.m2v
7828 dls10.vob.m2v
8395 dls10d1.vob.m2v
8449 dls10d2.vob.m2v
8533 dls10d3.vob.m2v
8569 dls10b.vob.m2v
8652 dls11.vob.m2v
8925 dls11d1.vob.m2v
9009 dls11b.vob.m2v
9091 dls12.vob.m2v
9281 dls12d1.vob.m2v
9329 dls12d2.vob.m2v
9389 dls12b.vob.m2v
9471 dls13.vob.m2v
9821 dls13d1.vob.m2v
9881 dls13b.vob.m2v
9964 dls14.vob.m2v
10453 dls14d1.vob.m2v
10501 dls14d2.vob.m2v
10565 dls14d3.vob.m2v
10601 dls14b.vob.m2v
10684 dls15.vob.m2v
11269 dls15d1.vob.m2v
11317 dls15d2.vob.m2v
11349 dls15b.vob.m2v
11432 dls16.vob.m2v
11881 dls16d1.vob.m2v
11917 dls16d2.vob.m2v
11940 dls16d3.vob.m2v
11977 dls16d4.vob.m2v
12048 dls16b.vob.m2v
12132 dls17.vob.m2v
12477 dls17d1.vob.m2v
12537 dls17d2.vob.m2v
12585 dls17b.vob.m2v
12668 dls18.vob.m2v
13029 dls18d1.vob.m2v
13089 dls18d2.vob.m2v
13163 dls18b.vob.m2v
13245 dls19.vob.m2v
13803 dls19d1.vob.m2v
13827 dls19d2.vob.m2v
13875 dls19d3.vob.m2v
13923 dls19d4.vob.m2v
14003 dls19d5.vob.m2v
14039 dls19d6.vob.m2v
14087 dls19d7.vob.m2v
14147 dls19b.vob.m2v
14229 dls20.vob.m2v
14232 dls20.vob.m2v
14575 dls20d1.vob.m2v
14611 dls20d2.vob.m2v
14659 dls20d3.vob.m2v
14707 dls20b.vob.m2v
14788 dls21.vob.m2v
15306 dls21d1.vob.m2v
15365 dls21p1.vob.m2v
15486 dls21b.vob.m2v
15569 dls22.vob.m2v
16148 dls22d1.vob.m2v
16184 dls22d2.vob.m2v
16208 dls22d3.vob.m2v
16256 dls22d4.vob.m2v
16308 dls22d5.vob.m2v
16332 dls22d6.vob.m2v
16404 dls22b.vob.m2v
16486 dls23.vob.m2v
16976 dls23d1.vob.m2v
17024 dls23d2.vob.m2v
17088 dls23d3.vob.m2v
17124 dls23b.vob.m2v
17206 dls24.vob.m2v
18036 dls24d1.vob.m2v
18060 dls24d2.vob.m2v
18142 dls24b.vob.m2v
18224 dls25.vob.m2v
18378 dls25d1.vob.m2v
18486 dls25d2.vob.m2v
18522 dls25b.vob.m2v
18605 dls26.vob.m2v
19054 dls26d1.vob.m2v
19090 dls26d2.vob.m2v
19114 dls26d3.vob.m2v
19150 dls26d4.vob.m2v
19222 dls26b.vob.m2v
19305 dls27.vob.m2v
19872 dls27d1.vob.m2v
19926 dls27d2.vob.m2v
20010 dls27d3.vob.m2v
20046 dls27b.vob.m2v
20130 dls28.vob.m2v
20384 dls28d1.vob.m2v
20450 dls28d2.vob.m2v
20486 dls28d3.vob.m2v
20534 dls28b.vob.m2v
20617 dls29.vob.m2v
20928 dls29d1.vob.m2v
21000 dls29d2.vob.m2v
21030 dls29d3.vob.m2v
21072 dls29b.vob.m2v
21155 dls30.vob.m2v
21740 dls30d1.vob.m2v
21788 dls30d2.vob.m2v
21820 dls30b.vob.m2v
21902 dls31.vob.m2v
22418 dls31d1.vob.m2v
22478 dls31p1.vob.m2v
22599 dls31b.vob.m2v
22680 dls32.vob.m2v
23938 dls32d1.vob.m2v
23962 dls32d2.vob.m2v
23986 dls32d3.vob.m2v
24010 dls32d4.vob.m2v
24034 dls32d5.vob.m2v
24094 dls32d6.vob.m2v
24158 dls32d7.vob.m2v
24238 dls32b.vob.m2v
24320 dls33.vob.m2v
25098 dls33d1.vob.m2v
25146 dls33d2.vob.m2v
25194 dls33d3.vob.m2v
25300 dls33d4.vob.m2v
25360 dls33d5.vob.m2v
25396 dls33b.vob.m2v
25479 dls34.vob.m2v
25850 dls34d1.vob.m2v
25886 dls34d2.vob.m2v
25957 dls34b.vob.m2v
26040 dls35.vob.m2v
26578 dls35d1.vob.m2v
26613 dls35d2.vob.m2v
26637 dls35b.vob.m2v
26720 dls36.vob.m2v
27050 dls36d1.vob.m2v
27085 dls36d2.vob.m2v
27122 dls36d3.vob.m2v
27158 dls36b.vob.m2v
27242 dls32.vob.m2v
28498 dls32d1.vob.m2v
28522 dls32d2.vob.m2v
28546 dls32d3.vob.m2v
28570 dls32d4.vob.m2v
28594 dls32d5.vob.m2v
28654 dls32d6.vob.m2v
28718 dls32d7.vob.m2v
28798 dls32b.vob.m2v
28880 dls38.vob.m2v
31190 dls38d1.vob.m2v
31238 dls38d2.vob.m2v
31298 dls38d3.vob.m2v
31346 dls38d4.vob.m2v
31394 dls38d5.vob.m2v
31454 dls38d6.vob.m2v
31502 dls38b.vob.m2v






--DAPHNE version 0.99.7
--Command line is: E:\Emulators\Daph hd\daphne.exe lair vldp -framefile E:\Emulators\Daph hd\framefile\lair_dvdrom.txt -fullscreen -useoverlaysb 1 -bank 0 11011001 -bank 1 00100011 -nohwaccel
--CPU : GenuineIntel 1550 MHz || Mem : 768 megs
--OS : Windows XP/.NET || Video : NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600
Set 640x480 at 32 bpp with flags: 80000000
Initializing sound system ...
Joystick #0 was successfully opened
Loading compressed ROM image dl_f2_u1.bin...8192 bytes read.
Loading compressed ROM image dl_f2_u2.bin...8192 bytes read.
Loading compressed ROM image dl_f2_u3.bin...8192 bytes read.
Loading compressed ROM image dl_f2_u4.bin...8192 bytes read.
Framefile parse succeeded. Video/Audio directory is: E:/Emulators/Daph hd/framefile/../DLDVDROM/
YUV overlay is done in software (ie unaccelerated).
YUV overlay is done in software (ie unaccelerated).
LDP-VLDP: Could not parse video because file E:/Emulators/Daph hd/framefile/../DLDVDROM/dls28.vob.m2v could not be opened.
Booting ROM ...
lair : Re-allocated overlay surface (360 x 240)...
Play
LDP : disc is already playing, play command ignored
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Display disable received
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I just found out that after a transfer of one of my files,
when I renamed the .vob, I rename one clip
DSL28.VOB instead of DLS28.VOB,
so DVD2DAPH didnt convert that clip.

That may explain why my errors are happening....
I'm re-running dvd2daph on all my converted clips and should
have a finished set in minutes...

GOT IT!
It works perfectly.

It was that one .vob file that I accidentally named wrong. It was throwing
the other clips off, becasue DVD2DAPH could not find the file to convert it.
Now when I play the electric floor/knight, the scene ends when it should.
And I don't have my 2nd problem anymore either.
I just played a whole game with my converted HD footage and
it looks so SWEET!

The .wmv files on the HD DVD match all the files (length and content)
on the DVD Rom (different file names, mind you)
So if you have a program that can convert .wmv files to .vob files,
(I used NeroVision Express) you can in essance 'recreate' the structure
of the DVD Rom disk and then run DVD2DAPH to convert the clips
into the .m2v and .ogg files that are needed for Daphne.
Thats all I did. Simple conversion.
Now, time to go finish up a few more death scenes.. and I should be all done!

this is not true. If you do the conversion this way, your game will not be frame accurate. Just FYI.

Thanks for the info chip.
Yes, I'm sure thru my method of conversion that the #of frames are slightly off and will not match perfectly.
But as long as it looks and feels accurate, this is fine with me.
Still much better than anything DigitalLeisure has put out.
And I cant tell any differences with prior versions of Daphne w/my
ripped DVD footage.

With Digital Leisure's HD clips, along with Daphne and the tools to do the conversion,
I am more than happy with what I ended up with.

Thanks again to everyone who provided this emulator for us.
My Dragon's Lair experience is almost complete now.
(after going through almost every version of DL made for any console
or computer....)

...Looks like there were a handful of differences between the files
on the DLDVDROM and the Dragon's Lair HD DVD.

No one will ever find this useful since they will not convert the video
the way I did, but here is what I had to 'change' to get the
HD Clips to match the DLDVDROM clips.

1) I found out that the DLDVDROM is missing a death scene in the fire
room. If it were to be there, it would be called DLS13D2.VOB
The death scene IS on the HD version as file xS14D2.wmv

Since In my conversion I'm matching all the VOB files on the DLDVDROM,
I'm leaving the file out. Hopefully DVD2DAPH is programmed NOT to
look for this file during conversion.

2) On the HD DVD, pertaining to the Reversed Horse scene...
The end of game clip xS34B.wmv (skeleton clip) has a death scene included
in it. The death scene needed to be cropped off. (The death scene IS
in its own file already, but somehow got included in the 'B' clip.)

3) On the HD DVD, there are 2 mudmen death scenes that needed
to be merged together. The orginal DLDVDROM had these two scenes
together in one clilp.
xS26D1 and xS26D2 need to be merged into one file, resulting in DLS33D1.VOB on the DLDVDROM.

...Boy.. I was really into this.
Knowing this, I should be able to rip thru the anamorphic conversion
pretty quickly.

Hi Smashtvguy,

>(...Looks like there were a handful of differences between the files
on the DLDVDROM and the Dragon's Lair HD DVD.)

Interesting...

>(No one will ever find this useful since they will not convert the video
the way I did, but here is what I had to 'change' to get the
HD Clips to match the DLDVDROM clips.)

Not True, some, like myself may find this Information very useful.

>(1) I found out that the DLDVDROM is missing a death scene in the fire
room. If it were to be there, it would be called DLS13D2.VOB
The death scene IS on the HD version as file xS14D2.wmv)

This Difference is actually oppisite to what you say...
That Scene should not even be there on the DLHD Disc. It's not the Death Scene for that Scene. It's the Death Scene of the reverse Smitty Scene from xS33D1, which is there. But nice find, though.

In the Original Dragon's Lair Arcade game, they used the Dirk walking through the Arch and catching on fire for both Deaths. If you had Dirk go through the Arch, you saw the whole Death Scene play out. If you had Dirk just stand there and did nothing, The Death Scene would play out with the first part of the Scene Cropped and only show Dirk Catching on Fire, only. This is the way it is on the Original Laser Disc.

>(2) On the HD DVD, pertaining to the Reversed Horse scene...
The end of game clip xS34B.wmv (skeleton clip) has a death scene included
in it. The death scene needed to be cropped off. (The death scene IS
in its own file already, but somehow got included in the 'B' clip.))

Not on mine. That must have happened during your conversion.

>(3) On the HD DVD, there are 2 mudmen death scenes that needed
to be merged together. The orginal DLDVDROM had these two scenes
together in one clilp.
xS26D1 and xS26D2 need to be merged into one file, resulting in DLS33D1.VOB on the DLDVDROM.)

The 2 Mudmen Death Scenes are actually separated. They each have the end of them having the Blacking out Circle. But it dose look like the way they were animated, that they should have been merged together without the first part having the Blacking out Circle. This is the way it is on the Original Laser Disc, as well.

Keep up the Great Work you are doing, and keep me Informed. I like to here of people doing there own thing with Daphne and LD Games in trying to do something Different and even better than the Original Game.


Yours Truly,

Tony M. Victorino

yep, those are the types of differences to which I was referring. You'll probably find other minor issues pop up too.

Unfortunately the HD disc can't easily be tacked into dvd2daph, as you've discovered. A conversion utility for the HD disc would have to go back to the drawing board and compare each scene to the LD again to make sure everything lines up perfectly.

On the flip side, if you're happy with what you end up with, then that's all that matters.

Thanks for the input guys.

Tony,
Pertaining to #2, I can actually click on the .wmv file right on the
HD DVD and see the two clips merged into one. Odd that
you do not see that.

Other than those issues... I got the whole game converted, and the
re-run with DVD2DAPH, and it is woking fine.
There are 2 or 3 scenes where the scenes end a little prematrurely,
(which chip had warned me about since the scenes may not start
on the same frames as the LD)
I'm considering going into those 2 or 3 scenes and cropping the beginning
off by maybe 1 quarter of a second, so the end of the scene plays
(where the doors close at the end of the scene)


Chip,
Yes, I can see how a whole new conversion utility would have to be made to handle these differences...
I'm fine doing the 'manual' process, now that I am familiar with what to
look for.

Almost time to start on the animorphic version.

Hi Smashtvguy,

(>Tony,
Pertaining to #2, I can actually click on the .wmv file right on the
HD DVD and see the two clips merged into one. Odd that
you do not see that.)

Ah, I found it. It's on the Wide Screen Video, but it's not on the Full and Animorphic Screen Video's. So, you may want to see if there is any other differences between the different Video versions.

If you are using Daphne and you are using Dragon's Lair's Original F2 Roms, some of the scenes do play a little short normerally.
Dave H.'s DLE 2.0 uses the most Video in the Game. But some of the moves are different from the original, because he wanted to have moves based more directly on the way th animation plays.

But Chip is right about needing to make sure that the First Frame # of each scene maches the Frame # of the Laser Disc.


Yours Truly,

Tony M. Victorino

Good Find.

Oh great.
I haven't looked at the video for the other versions yet.
Looks like I'm in for more surpises as I go along.

This seemed the best topic to ask my question in, while I'm new and can't create posts..plus it's not been touched for a couple of months.


Basically, being a total newbie to Daphne, but having a huge experience knowledge of arcade games, including 6 in my garage.
Where on earth do we get the DVD's from ?

It seems such a daft question, but all i've seen are postings online a few times about some guy on Amazon.com who was advertising DVD's, yet they arrived as CD's. 20th Anniversary Dragons Lair and yep all the Digital Leisure fuss.

I'm particularly interested in GP World and other odd titles. But all I see are Dragons Lair references and a huge focus on Digital Leisure. Digital Leisure aren't laserdisc full stop..yet i've seen no references to how to obtain legal copies of the other games on DVD.
How do you play the other ones ?


Finally - I own the full board set for MACH 3 and this prompted my interest in Daphne. I'm left very confused about how to make a legal machine, which would at least have the MACH 3 boards within it (if no way was found to get them to talk to a DVD), but may have a PC driving the cabinet.


Any help would be gratefully received
And please remember not to laugh...you were new to this once

From Digital Liesure.


Try the beta version of Daphne.

Yeah, it's the beta i'm using..but it seems that only the DL ones have available files online (files which are on the DVD's in any case).

I don't mean to be rude, but this has been stated many times before. Every author of any emulator has every right to prevent any possible legal problems. The whole DVD requirement for the Digital Leisure titles is just to prevent that. I actually like the idea because I actually OWN all of the DVD's that currently work with this emulator. It feels good. ^_^

Oh me too and no offence taken. Last year I built a multigame Defender cab, running from Compact Flash powered PC and running several games via own written menu. I bought and fitted every original game board in the rear of the machine ! People seemed confused though on Ebay lol. These days it seems to be 48 in 1 boards and no regard to legalities.

Digital Leisure have every right to expect fair play. My interests are with all the games, particularly MACH 3, while I own the full boardset.